{Before you read anything: This web log is written by a man, who turned feminist after seeing what his mother went through in a patriarchal system}
Summary: An old woman in metro threw some questions at 2 young guys in metro-railway, who were questioning the empty ladies compartments. This is a reaction to that.
First read this: (before you read about the old woman i have named as "Aunt Metro")
Do you find this uncle's behaviour outrageous? I do !
Now read this:
(By Dyuti Sudipta, https://www.facebook.com/bedadyutijha/posts/1053031678104403 )
Translation:
(By: Oitrika Biswas, https://www.facebook.com/spoiltmodernwoman/photos/a.380903738768293.1073741828.380483035477030/470809859777680/?type=3&comment_id=470881133103886&reply_comment_id=470886056436727&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D )
What do I find wrong in uncle's statement?
Answer:
Kesha & Manisha's objection was not: there are no men to fill Kuku's office.
Kehsa & Manisha's objection was: the vacancies left open by men was not filled by deserving women.
Yet he mixed up the issues.
He implied that these 2 ladies must put up with Kuku's antics because something happened to some other men done by some other women.
He implied that, if these 2 ladies did not complain about what happened to men who suffered, then these 2 women should not be complaining about what Kuku is doing.
Getting innocent men out of jail or stopping them from killing themselves, may or may not fill Kuku's office, but it will not solve the problem where empty seats are not given to women in need.
What do I find wrong in auntie's statement?
Answer:
Guy1 & Guy2's objection was not: there are no women to fill ladies' reserved coach.
Guy1 & Guy2's objection was: the coach left empty by women was not filled by deserving others.
Yet she mixed up the issues.
She implied that these 2 men must put up with metro-rail's antics because something happened to some other women done by some other people.
She implied that, if these 2 men did not complain about what happened to women who suffered, then these 2 men should not be complaining about what metro-rail-administrators are doing.
Discouraging gender-selective-abortion and/or encouraging women to work, may or may not fill metro-train's seats, but it will not solve the problem where empty seats are not given to others in need.
What the uncle and the auntie in these cases did, has a name: diversion tactics. That is: divert the attention from the issue.
You use diversion-tactics when you do not have any argument to prove or win your case.
Before anyone would like to use diversion tactics like:
1. It is people like Mr.Kuku Sharma, that the auntie was speaking against.
2. There are enough men around to fill up Mr.Kuku Sharma's office.
3. You are a misogynist.
Let me give the rebuttals in advance:
1. Kuku Sharma and his office are fictional. In fact the whole 1st paragraph in gray-background is fictional. I am about to be 35 in coming months, and yet to see someone like Kuku.
2. The local trains in Mumbai and indeed many places in India have ladies coaches filled up to the door, indeed the general compartments too.
3. At first, i admired the lady too, but the feminist in me made me think: "What if we reverse the gender?", and that made me realize what i realized.
References:
[1] http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-53-rape-cases-filed-between-april-2013-and-july-2013-false-delhi-commission-of-women-2023334
Summary: An old woman in metro threw some questions at 2 young guys in metro-railway, who were questioning the empty ladies compartments. This is a reaction to that.
First read this: (before you read about the old woman i have named as "Aunt Metro")
| Mr.Kuku Sharma's office had 10 vacancies. No one but one girl named Ms.Kesha Bahi applied. Kesha is highly qualified & cracked the interview. For some reason, Mr.Kuku Sharma preferred men to fill up those vacancies. Kuku looked at Ms.Kesha Bahi's CV and still rejected her. Three more girls like Kesha were searching for jobs & were depressed after not getting them despite having the talent. Kesha: "Look at Kuku's office. It is almost empty, and he won't even let us women fill it up." Manisha(Kesha's female friend): "Yes, you are right. Yesterday a man took up the job that I deserved more, and he didn't even apply at Kuku's office." An uncle was eavesdropping on these 2 women's conversation & intervened: "That is because, neither you are letting them live, nor letting them free. There are 60,000-plus married men comared to 20,000-plus married women that committed suicide last year & 53% of rape FIRs filed in Delhi alone in Apr-Jul-2013 were false. If you do not force them to kill themselves & do not jail them in false cases, they will be offices of people like Kuku. But that is what you are afraid of, isn't it?" |
Do you find this uncle's behaviour outrageous? I do !
Now read this:
| Overheard in Metro. Guy 1: Dekh ladies coach poora khali hai. Idhar side itna bhara hua hai, par fir bhi hume wahan jaake baithna allowed nahin hai. Khali padi hui hain seatein. Guy 2: Haan yaar. Dekh, poora coach de rakha hai unko, wo bharti hain nahin, upar se humare coach mein bhi do do seatein de rakhi hain, hum baith gaye to utha diye jaate hain, bhale poora unka coach khali pada ho. Wo to bhar lein pehle! Badass Aunty: Aap log paida hi nahin hone de rahe ho na beta, aur naseeb se paida ho bhi rahi hain to unko padhne likhne, bahar nikalne se rok rahe ho jee jaan lagake. Ye sab kaam band kar do, kokh mein maar dena, doodh mein dubo dena, rok tok karna, fir dekho na beta, metro ki seatein kya, office ki kursiyan, khel ka maidan sab kuch bhar dengi ye, par usi cheez se to darr rahe ho aap, hai na? Hai na beta? |
Translation:
| Overheard in Metro. Guy 1: Look, the Ladies coach is completely empty. So many seats are vacant. This side is so full, still we aren't allowed to go and sit there. Guy 2: Yeah man. Look, they've been given an entire coach plus two seats in every one of 'our' coaches. If we sit on those too, we are made to get up - even if the entire ladies coach is empty. Badass older woman: Son, that's because you are not letting them be born. And, if somehow they are, you are doing everything in your power to stop them from studying, working, going out. Why don't you stop all this - killing them in the womb, confining them to role of child bearers, curbing their movements and freedom. Then see, how they fill not just metro seats, but office spaces, sport fields and everywhere else. But then, that's exactly what you're scared of, son. Aren't you? |
What do I find wrong in uncle's statement?
Answer:
Kesha & Manisha's objection was not: there are no men to fill Kuku's office.
Kehsa & Manisha's objection was: the vacancies left open by men was not filled by deserving women.
Yet he mixed up the issues.
He implied that these 2 ladies must put up with Kuku's antics because something happened to some other men done by some other women.
He implied that, if these 2 ladies did not complain about what happened to men who suffered, then these 2 women should not be complaining about what Kuku is doing.
Getting innocent men out of jail or stopping them from killing themselves, may or may not fill Kuku's office, but it will not solve the problem where empty seats are not given to women in need.
What do I find wrong in auntie's statement?
Answer:
Guy1 & Guy2's objection was not: there are no women to fill ladies' reserved coach.
Guy1 & Guy2's objection was: the coach left empty by women was not filled by deserving others.
Yet she mixed up the issues.
She implied that these 2 men must put up with metro-rail's antics because something happened to some other women done by some other people.
She implied that, if these 2 men did not complain about what happened to women who suffered, then these 2 men should not be complaining about what metro-rail-administrators are doing.
Discouraging gender-selective-abortion and/or encouraging women to work, may or may not fill metro-train's seats, but it will not solve the problem where empty seats are not given to others in need.
What the uncle and the auntie in these cases did, has a name: diversion tactics. That is: divert the attention from the issue.
You use diversion-tactics when you do not have any argument to prove or win your case.
Before anyone would like to use diversion tactics like:
1. It is people like Mr.Kuku Sharma, that the auntie was speaking against.
2. There are enough men around to fill up Mr.Kuku Sharma's office.
3. You are a misogynist.
Let me give the rebuttals in advance:
1. Kuku Sharma and his office are fictional. In fact the whole 1st paragraph in gray-background is fictional. I am about to be 35 in coming months, and yet to see someone like Kuku.
2. The local trains in Mumbai and indeed many places in India have ladies coaches filled up to the door, indeed the general compartments too.
3. At first, i admired the lady too, but the feminist in me made me think: "What if we reverse the gender?", and that made me realize what i realized.
References:
[1] http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-53-rape-cases-filed-between-april-2013-and-july-2013-false-delhi-commission-of-women-2023334
[2] http://ncrb.nic.in/StatPublications/CII/CII2014/cii2014.asp
[3] http://ncrb.nic.in/StatPublications/CII/CII2014/Statistics%202014.pdf
[4] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35994601?SThisFB
[3] http://ncrb.nic.in/StatPublications/CII/CII2014/Statistics%202014.pdf
[4] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35994601?SThisFB
